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What a Hell of a Way to Die

Dec 24, 2020

We're off this week, but we've unlocked a bonus episode from March in which Francis speaks with Jared and Elizabeth Kilmer from Game to Grow, an organization that uses tabletop gaming in therapy. Specifically, they discuss how they've seen tabletop gaming work to support therapy for veterans, and how roleplaying can be therapeutic in a variety of contexts. Hope you enjoy!

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