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What a Hell of a Way to Die

Apr 21, 2022

This week, Francis speaks to military dot com reporter Thomas Novelly about his recent article covering post-9/11 veterans’ experiences with the VFW and similar organizations. Thomas makes the point that, after his piece ran, he was inundated with email from younger veterans whose experiences had been almost all overwhelmingly negative. So, what is the future for veterans’ organizations that claim to represent veterans but are mostly very old, very white, and very conservative?


Read Thomas’s piece here:


For this week’s bonus, Francis, Joe, and Shocks are talking about military news stories that caught our attention. There was apparently a unit in the Ohio National Guard where two assigned soldiers got arrested for threats made on Discord--two different Discords and two different crimes. Only one of them threatened to do 9/11 on the Budweiser headquarters, though. Get it on Patreon here:


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